Curse

Sanji · Oct 07, 2005, 08:14 PM // 20:14

"Pull my Finger" sounds like a mix of Retribution and Choking Gas.

Enigmatics · Oct 07, 2005, 08:17 PM // 20:17

during 1 bazillioin times one bazillion times 2 trazillion times 8 mgabzaillion seconds, a lot of strange things are possible. And since I have no concrete grasp of eternity, I cannot imagine a monkey creating a masterpiece. But being the coldly indifferent forum poster that I am, facts are more appealing than opinions. And it's possible.

dansamy · Oct 07, 2005, 08:22 PM // 20:22

I'm so confused...
::backs slowly out of thread, quaking with fear, shaking head in disbelief::

Sanji · Oct 07, 2005, 08:24 PM // 20:24

It is my firm belief that when humans and monkeys went their seperate ways on the evolutionary tree that it was, in fact, monkeys that came out on top.

It's just that monkeys are laid back and have nothing to prove.

Enigmatics · Oct 07, 2005, 08:31 PM // 20:31

That sounds kinda forced to me.

Humans are obviously intellectually superior, and we have technology and more advanced society than our monkey cousins.

But then, there are a lot of ****ups, so I may as well say not cousins, but bretheren.

Sanji · Oct 07, 2005, 08:41 PM // 20:41

Really? It sounded like a joke to me.

But, if wish to take my facetious posts seriously, I may as well respond since there is a little bit of honesty behind it.

Intellect, technology, and even advanced society are a double edged sword. Definately, we have progressed further than any species on earth when it comes to those things, but in may ways our progress and ideas are flawed and self-defeating.

We are in love with squabbling over petty things, hurting/doing absolutely vile things to each other, despite that we can't control our population and even waste resources at an alarming rate. Worst of all we are so totally controlled by our hubris that it's sickening. While I don't think humanity is doomed to extinction anytime in the forseeable future, I find it hard to extol the virtues of being human when we are still so flawed.

Enigmatics · Oct 07, 2005, 08:45 PM // 20:45

Desire of material posessions and sadism are distinctly human traits. And what separates us from the animals. Propogation and instincts, however, are not our own faults; rather it is our faults if we act on those instincts to a certain degree, and propogate like crazy.

There is no low or high ground on this, and there is no Truth behind the words. I simply said that we intellectually superior to monkies.

This whole thing is a joke though... so I may sound a bit tightly-wound.

kg_lildude1 · Oct 07, 2005, 09:40 PM // 21:40

pfssh its not tightly-wound its uber-bundled!

Charcoal Ann · Oct 07, 2005, 10:21 PM // 22:21

i believe that the human race is the most arrogant and stupid race of organisms on the planet.
we seem to think that WE are responible for Global warming! one stupid race! with less than 6 billion constituants! ants farting releases more CO2 than we do! yet we truly believe that we are capable of destroying a planet!
madness.

and despite that belief we still go on doing the things that we believe to be ruining the planet. stupidity.

we are the only race on the planet that tortures members of our own race. we are the only species that kills thousands of our own kind and calls it 'morality'.
we are the most stupid and malevolent species on the planet. we don't deserve to be 'rulers' of this world. we don't deserve to be rulers of a sand pit!
we are a brand new race. we believe that something is special about us. that something special is a fault. a fault that will result in our ultimate destruction. not of our planet's, of OURS.

also fact: we share 99.99% of our genetic makeup with chimpanzees.
we also share 40% of out genetic makeup with cabbages.

kg_lildude1 · Oct 07, 2005, 10:31 PM // 22:31

we actually share 92% of genetic makeup with chimps, and we are 1 gene off from the flobberworm

Enigmatics · Oct 07, 2005, 10:39 PM // 22:39

I don't think anyone but humans feel arrogance, as it is an emotion like pain. Animals have instincts that are similar to emotions, and one of these may be related to arrogance, but it doesn't go past a satisfaction with securing a meal.

kg_lildude1 · Oct 07, 2005, 10:40 PM // 22:40

animals share many of our feelings, if not all, just because we cannot see them express them doesnt mean they dont have it

Enigmatics · Oct 07, 2005, 10:41 PM // 22:41

Uh... ouch, that sounds really really cynical, and catalystic-wannabe.

We are the ONLY organisms on the planet who can coherantly string together a sentance, and our emotions are much more advanced than animals'. Actually, in all technicality -animals have no emotions. What they feel when you hit them can't be called pain.

We are on the top of the food chain simply because we are smarter. Natural selection. Don't think for a second that if animals ruled, and they would need the brainpower necessary, don't think that if they ruled, that they wouldn't eventually become what we are.

Unless, at the root of the problem, they had no emotions.

FUDGE I meant to edit this to respond to the poster before you.

And no, animals do not have "emotions", according to science. My dog sits because of my voice's coaxing manner, which to an extent is communication, but it's still just an instinct that pushes her to sit.

kg_lildude1 · Oct 07, 2005, 10:45 PM // 22:45

YES animals have emotions, i saw a documentary about it in ap biology last week, dr. jane goodall and her chimps have already broken those boundarys

they have emotions, because, 1
they have an amydale, this controls their their actions during times of fear/intensity/w\e

Enigmatics · Oct 07, 2005, 10:47 PM // 22:47

WHAT THE **** MY SCIENCE TEACHER IS *NEVER* WRONG>

in any case, they are simple no-strings-attached kind of emotions. No animals are sadists: the ones that are are the antagonists of horror movies.

kg_lildude1 · Oct 07, 2005, 10:50 PM // 22:50

animals have emotions, because of their emotions they require social rules of conduct for their society, which is further proof if u still dont believe me

baboons are the greatest example

Enigmatics · Oct 07, 2005, 11:00 PM // 23:00

But their societies are fundamentally INFERIOR andiuseinferiorforlackofabetterwordsuchassimpler
to ours. Natural selection and such, and we maintain our spot with using technology. Something that animals don't really have.

kg_lildude1 · Oct 07, 2005, 11:01 PM // 23:01

they use technology, i turn to chimps again, they make tools and use them to help get/do normally impossible feats

Enigmatics · Oct 07, 2005, 11:08 PM // 23:08

But it takes them a LOT of evolution to innovate simple techonology. Humans have things that address their wants as well as needs; a majority of modern technology addresses our desires.

And, Chimps don't advertise CONCRETELY.

And, Chimps don't use CURRENCY.

... man, all of these arguments are wrong to an extent, because chimps do do these things... to some extent.

Argue about wolves, instead. Lots of societal status, but no external tools.

kg_lildude1 · Oct 07, 2005, 11:10 PM // 23:10

wolves like alot of other animals do not have the CAPABILITY to FORM the tools, they might want to make some tools, but will most likely be never able to use them, (their feet)